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Microsoft Buys 37signals For $300 Million

Not really.

At least not yet.  But that’s my prediction for 2009.  Outrageous, huh?  There are three elements of this prediction; let me address them in turn.

Why 37signals?

Simple, they make killer products, they are a cash machine, it’s an attractive business model and they’re visionaries.

I’m a huge fan of Basecamp.  For the few people who haven’t heard of Basecamp, it’s a team collaboration and project management tool.  Adoption amongst startups is high, but it has crossed the chasm and large companies are now adopting it with gusto.  I was in a meeting a couple weeks ago with some senior guys from a large (read billion dollar) offshoring/BPO company where they were pitching me for some business.  They spent 10 minutes of an hour-long meeting raving about Basecamp and how it made them “feel” like a small company.  They knew their competition for the deal was a group of smaller companies and part of their argument as to “why them” was Basecamp!  You know you have a killer product when people start ascribing emotions to it.

37signals has several other products, but Basecamp accounts for about 60% of their projected $8 million in 2008 revenue.  By the way, my friend Jed Christensen has a killer blog post on 37signal’s financials where he walks you through how he reverse engineered their numbers.  If Jed’s numbers are right, 37signals is a cash machine (with only 12 employees and annual costs of $2 million before taxes and $6 million of EBITDA).  A company that produces those kinds of numbers is certainly going to attract M&A attention even in a depressed market.

37signals also has a great business model.  They’re considered the “gold standard” for the freemium model where you give away basic service and charge for enhanced features.  Their free trial and $24 per month basic service level make it very enticing to try out.  This is exactly what’s killing Microsoft Project specifically and Microsoft’s application business generally.  The low price also keeps them from getting the axe when budget cuts come.

Finally, the good folks at 37signals are true visionaries and not just on the technology or business front but in terms of building great organizations too.  I haven’t met founder Jason Fried but reading interviews and stories about him, he’s clearly the real deal.  And they didn’t just create a great company they also spun off their technology into an open source framework (Ruby on Rails) and refined a new form of development termed “Getting Real.”  Think about that for a minute.  Here’s a company that is doing amazing things and they also had the time to create the dominant web 2.0 development framework and write a book.  Yes, they’re a small team, but that too is a testament to their talent.

Why Microsoft?

Simple.  They need it.  Microsoft’s application business is about to start a long, steady decline.  It reminds me of the newspaper business; it’s just been made obsolete.  The concept of buying a piece of software, installing it on my desktop and then using it sporadically for the next several years without improvement is as over as reading news on a dead tree.  The writing is on the wall and it seems that Microsoft just hasn’t gotten the memo.

Remember Visio, the $559.95 software you use to draw complicated flow charts?  I always hated it that it cost so much and I only needed it a couple times per year.  Well, recently I’ve been playing around with the beta of Flowchart.com.  Check out this screen shot.  It’s a killer webapp sure to severely eat away Visio’s marketshare.

Flowchart (1)

Note that to resize and crop this picture I didn’t use $699 Adobe Photoshop, instead I used SnipShot which is free.  Google and an army of other startups are methodically eating away at Microsoft’s core applications business and there is just no stopping that.  The folks at Microsoft are smart and I’m sure they are looking at this but what a huge problem they face…cannibalizing your own business.  It has to be done and the only question is how and when.

In terms of how, it’s clear that Microsoft’s 90,000 employees aren’t going to be the source.  If they were, it would have happened already.  So that only leaves the “buy” option and since Microsoft can’t buy Google, 37signals is the next best choice.  In terms of when, 2009 is the right year because it will be at or near the bottom of this economic cycle.  The price will never be cheaper.  And Microsoft is still sitting on a cash hoard.

So why $300 million?

Because that’s what it is going to take.  On the financials alone, 37signals should be worth about $80 million (10X revenue).  Not chickenfeed, but still not enough to get remaining founder Jason Fried to sell.  Jason is “famous” for saying he’d never hire someone who didn’t use a Mac.  So basically getting Jason and his team on board is going to take throwing a lot of cash at the problem on the part of Microsoft.

But that still won’t be enough.  Microsoft will also have to commit to porting Ruby to .NET and supporting RoR and Get Real throughout the firm.  Fried and his team will be given special evangelist roles and retaining them post transaction will be a key success factor.  I suspect Bill Gates will have to personally get involved in convincing Fried and company to go along.  A couple of years ago 37signals took an investment from Jeff Bezos, and not for the money or connections but for a relationship and advice so it shows that non-monetary motivation is at least as important as the money itself.

Of course this all probably won’t happen, but it was fun to write.

Happy New Year!


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  • http://malicelabs.com Arcturus Kirwin

    Fuck off, will they.

    I make the prediction that you are talking out of your ass.

  • obiefernandez

    Hey man, you should have waited to publish this on April 1st. Hysterical!

    • http://www.altgate.com/ fnazeeri

      I actually considered that.

  • http://blackholeinthemidwest.com/ Matt Hooks

    Nope.

  • anonymous

    Why do you pretend to know anything?

    Let alone have the audacity to try predict something so fundamentally stupid.

    Please stop blogging.

  • http://blog.jredville.com jredville

    How is IronRuby not already doing the “Microsoft will also have to commit to porting Ruby to .NET” part of the equation?

    • http://www.altgate.com/ fnazeeri

      From what I gather, it’s not done, but I could be wrong.

      • http://blog.jredville.com jredville

        No it’s not done. We can run Rails, irb and RubyGems (among other things, those are just big names). We are committed to delivering a 1.0 release that is compatible with 1.8.6. That’s why I say they are committed.

        • http://www.altgate.com/ fnazeeri

          I’m reminded of the story of the ham and eggs breakfast. The chicken is involved whereas the pig is committed. Time will tell whether Microsoft is the chicken or the pig; if it’s the latter, you could could pretty quickly become a pretty important dude. Good luck!

          • TedHoward

            I’m pleased to see that someone else beat me in posting about IronRuby, and the pig analogy is the perfect counterargument. If Microsoft can get some RoR people excited to use Azure, then I think Microsoft starts to look a bit more pig-like than chicken-like. I have heard of RoR being used, mostly by consultants, at larger enterprise firms, so the population of “RoR people” is not entirely composed of Silicon Valley startup trend followers, which means that it’s more likely that Microsoft will attract RoR people imo.

  • http://www.petercooper.co.uk/ Peter Cooper

    A year ago I’d have said this was ridiculous, but things are changing in a bit way out there, and especially at Microsoft. I’m on the fence as to whether they’d sell, but I definitely wouldn’t be surprised if Microsoft made an offer like this at all.

    MS has a big enough cash pile and if it can present a humble enough image of change where it’s seen to really need new blood to grow and redefine itself into the future, I think it could pull on board quite a few big names. It wouldn’t surprise me to see 37signals amongst them.

    • http://www.petercooper.co.uk/ Peter Cooper

      Oh, and don’t be too dissuaded by the negative comments. A prediction of $42 oil would have been seen as nuts several months ago too, or the collapse of several of the world’s largest financial institutions just a year or two ago.. Things change fast out there, and if MS has any sense, they’ll be doing so too.

      Keep making bold predictions – they might not come true, but the reality will be even more outrageous..

  • Cassio

    Just one little thing: They’re enthusiasts of being small and having no external investors…..

  • http://blog.jedchristiansen.com jedc

    Thanks for the link, Furqan!

    You’re right… this is more appropriate for a great April Fool’s post, but an interesting diversion. The number of people that I have seen buy MS Project just to create GANTT charts (using none of the other capabilities) demonstrates how fragile their market dominance is and will be. Everyone I know that works or has worked at Microsoft are all really, really smart… maybe their business acumen lags their technical acumen?

  • anonymous

    This won’t happen. The blog post only has appeal because you are arguing in favor of something everyone else knows/believes will not happen. Thinking outside the box does not in itself constitute a “good” thought. It has to actually be a possibility — otherwise, it’s a waste of time.

    Why? Because you’ve neglected culture. Microsoft is smart enough to know which companies can integrate into the Microsoft way and which cannot. 37signals is not microsoft material and we all know this, except you.

    • http://www.altgate.com/ fnazeeri

      You are totally right that Microsoft and 37signals respective corporate cultures are like oil and water. My argument is that part of the problem with Microsoft is the “Microsoft Way.” What’s interesting is that Jason Fried has shown himself to be a capable evangelist. He’s written a book. He is an excellent public speaker and apparently enjoys speaking as he does it frequently. It’s exactly somebody like him who Microsoft needs to help them evolve without which they will slowly fade away. So as improbable as it sounds and as hard as it certainly would be, there is a rationale for it to happen.

  • Andrew Field

    Thanks for the link to Flowchart.com. Once in a while someone comes up with a piece of software that is intuitive, useful, and priced right. Great software should be usable with no instructions or training, and guessing as to how to do something should get you the right result most of the time. BaseCamp doesn’t quite meet that standard, but it is pretty good, and a helluva lot better than MS Project for anything but the largest projects.

    Here’s another gem: http://www.techsmith.com/screen-capture.asp
    I started using SnagIt a year or 2 ago, and it absolutely rocks. A great use is including screenshots in emails about website changes, or even xls snags. I probably dump snags into 3 Word, ppt or emails a day. And no, I have nothing to do with the company, I just love their software. 90% of the time I use it instead of Photoshop or Illustrator.

  • condor

    “So why $300 million? Because that’s what it is going to take.”

    ‘Just because’, has never been a rational reason for anything. If you’re going to make such bold statements back them up, otherwise your just trying to out-noise all the other noise out there, which adds zero value to the discussion.

    • http://www.altgate.com/ fnazeeri

      What I was thinking (but did not articulate) is that the ZOPA for this deal is large because the value to MSFT of 37signials is very high (revenue from MSFT’s MBD group aka “applications” was $19 billion in 2008 growing at 15% per year and roughly worth $60 billion). If you assumed that MSFT believed even 2% of their MBD group revenue was at risk and could be staved off with an acquisition, then their willingness to pay would be something like $600 million. So the trick is to guess what would be market clearing terms within this ZOPA between say $80 million and $600 million. It’s all conjecture anyway so I picked $300 million out of thin air. BTW, I initially thought $200 million (see the URL of the blog post) but then changed my mind thinking Jason Fried had bigger cojones than that.

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  • Mi

    Yeah, so this obviously never happened.

  • Mi

    Yeah, so this obviously never happened.